Saturday, August 18, 2007

When is a scam not a scam?

So AMI are the 'Australian Medical Institute' and run hundreds of adverts on all local and national radio stations in Australia encouraging men to call in and discuss the problems they may have with premature ejaculation and not being able to perform long enough in bed.

They invest literally $100,000s into their campaigns, all of which change style, content and approach frequently and all of which continue the same theme - that men who can't perform longer than a few seconds, aren't really men at all. The scare tactics and generally belittling of guys pulls on the strings on inadequacy and convinces men to make that call to AMI.

According to previous AMI adverts, 1000s of men call them a day (which as a side note would have meant the entire male population of Australia being impotent in about 20 years time) and improve their performance with the fantastic 'nasal delivery technology'. You sniff something and your cock gets rock hard for hours. Sounds simple, and obviously quite exciting for all concerned.

Except its not quite like that. Whilst I might point out that this problem doesn't occur with me, I suspect everyone will nod and say 'yeah, right' under their breath. I actually got this information from someone in the radio industry who had found out how AMI generate their money.

Apparently, when you visit an AMI consultant they do various tests to work out what the problem is, which of course, reveal that the basic and cheap course of medication won't achieve any results for you, and what you need is the longer and far more expensive course of treatment that will inevitably cost you $1000s.

Now don't get me wrong, this sort of 'condition' is obviously very worrying for men - we've all be on the receiving end of a bodily part that refuses to co-operate when the time is right - but when is a scam not a scam? When it appears on a national radio campaign? When it has a glossy website? When it has 'Australian' and 'Medical' in it's name?

Playing on people's basic weakness is an age old way of selling something - insurance companies base their entire livelihood on general human fear; Nigerian 419 scams prey on greed to do the same - but where do we draw a line? Scientology has built a worldwide religion on exactly the same scheme as AMI. Bring someone in at the bottom level, tell them they need to spend a lot of money and time to improve themselves and keep adding goals for them to stretch further and further to, whilst keeping the ultimate goal - if there is even one - well out of sight. It is the basic premise of many modern day businesses and institutions.

The answer is transparency. If we actually saw what was waiting for us at the end of these schemes, would we be so willing to throw our money at them? Or course not. But this may cause more problems that it solves. Some people LIKE the idea of Scientology and AMI telling them they have a long term problem that needs expensive help. Some people need a 'professional' to tell them what to do and where to do. The vast majority of the global population are sheep, and sheep need rounding up. If they didn't spend their money on expensive placebos, they'd be worrying and fretting that something was wrong and they weren't doing anything to fix it.

The sad reality is that people enjoy the sancity of being scammed. They feel safe and warm in feeling wanted and feeling a sense of belonging, even if that safety, warmth and belonging is artificial, over-priced and fraudulent.

Scammers exist because people need them.

14 comments:

BCS said...
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BCS said...

Hi Ive been through this process and throughly disgusted in AMI and dishonest approach toward me.Like you say they do a few tests to you by a nurse then put you on to a phone to a doctor in Sydney. They actually dont have a doctor on site at the clinics you visit. very impersonal and I was made to feel like a number and this is not how men should be treated given the magnitude of the problem.

Secondly they say it is a no obligation qoute in the adds that appear everywhere. This is far from the truth. They use heavy handed tactics, cohersion and bullying to hand over your credit card. I was placed under enormus pressure to sign up at 18 months for a cost of 4000+. Far to expensive for a little bit of spray

So beware men before you seek to see AMI

Deborahmaree said...

Hi,can anyone give advise on who to go to to get a refund after being pressure into 2 months supply $300.00 we canceled 15 min later with them and the bank they went ahead straight away and processed it after telling us they would contact first in 3 days its shonky somthing needs to be done
Thanks Deb

Krimmer said...

I've done a bit of reasearch as i was always curious what drug AMI was using as current laws don't actually allow direct marketing of medicines in Australia. AMI is trying to be a bit sneeky but i've found that they use a drug called apomorphine which is actually ment to be used to treat parkinsons disease. It can work in errectile dysfuction but is probably the weakest drug out there for the condition. In fact a recent trial of 11000 men showed that 83% of men stopped using apomorphine after 2 months because it didn't work. AMI is obviously just in it for the money and are not providing a product that works. If people do really have ED then they should see a real doctor and get real medications to treat it. AMI is such a scam and are just trapping people into contracts for something which doesnt work!

Unknown said...

I agree with all of you in particularly with CS.

I was conned into using AMI's product way back in 2004 and it turned out i was completely misdiagnosed!!

I had come out of a long relationship and couldnt "get it up" around new womem which was embarrasing of course. After one visit, thy asked a few quesions and they also put me on the phone to a shonky sounding South African doctor!

Before long they persuaded me out of $1400 right there and then for a 6month supply. Of course, this nasal spray did nothing (apart from irritating me), i eventually got back with my Ex and the sex was great without the need for their product.

I tried to get a refund citing that i was misdiagnosed, that the fact that my problem was psycologically based rather than genetic, but they completely refused saying "one day you will need it, so we will keep you on file and give you 6 months supply whenever you want"

Can you believe that!?! These crooks need to be stopped!!!

Flávio said...

I beg to differ. Apomorphine is an effective ED treatment and there are several studies that show its safety and efficacy. In fact, apomorphine has already been sold in Europe for the treatment of ED(brand name Uprima). It doesn't work for everyone, but that doesn't mean it's a scam.

SKD said...

http://consumerpsychologist.blogspot.com/2009/06/forensic-shopping-my-experience-getting.html

This is a great undercover report on AMI by Adam Ferrier...

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AliceGunn said...

i am sick of people saying this is not a scam, i have been to various forums and people keep saying, well it does eventually work for some people so its not a scam. OF COURSE ITS A SCAM! they charge varying amounts to people depending on how 'desperate' the client is, in order to make the most money possible, and send them only one bottle of this 'treatment' when they said they'd send 6.

It is a scam and they need to be on the tellie.

Spursfan1983 said...

I have had similar problems with AMI in Harley Street London. This company is definitely a scam.

I visited them back in 2009 re: PE and they advised me that if I paid £1000, they would provide me with medication that would definitely work.

I had my initial consultation with Dr Agbaja (a black woman). Dr Agbaja totally mis-led me, she told me that if the nasal spray did not work I would receive a full refund and WOULD NOT need to try any further treatments. I was not shown the terms and conditions until after I had made the payment.

I was told by a nurse today that the UK branch of AMI has gone into liquidation. The nurse advised me to forward all correspondence to Deborah Samuels (AMI Director) at the Sydney address.

I have sought legal advice regarding this scam and have been advised that what AMI did was wrong. It is not right to take payment from someone and get them to sign a contract without showing them the terms and conditions first. It is unethical for a doctor to mis-lead a patient. I WILL NOT give up until I get every single penny of the £1000 back.

My suggestion is that we all group together and lodge a joint complaint with AMI. I have contacted trading standards, watchdog and the relevant organisations and I strongly believe we have a cast iron case. I also have a friend in law that has also advised me on my legal standing. I am happy to do all the leg work, correspondence and chasing but I need you guys on board if we are to be successful.

I understand that for confidentiality reason some of you may not want to pursue this any further. However we can still remain anonymous by corresponding via e-mail. Those of you who do want to group together and get back what is rightfully ours please contact me at: spursfan1983@hotmail.co.uk

If any body has any further information that will help with my case please get in contact.

Regards,

Nick

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Phil said...

AMI is a total scam. They tell you they will send you some medicine and within a month this problem will be all behind you. Also that you are not alone and they will be in contact with you. I had similar experiences to everyone else with regards to the contact with ami, having to leave messages and wait for a call back only to talk to a "nurse" yeah right, and be put onto the next medication which again didnt work. Finally i had tried all their medications after they took thousands of dollars from me and left me with a refund of less than $200, which they say is due to the fact that the medications cost 1000s of dollars plus admin fee not to mention the 600 deosit the charge to my credit card. These people are dead set crooks and they prey on the insecurities of people when they are at their weakest moment. I hope someone considering calling them reads this and changes their mind. Do not partake in their "program' they will just bleed you dry. TOTAL SCAM